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Extremely very cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not make clear ... my poor In respond to spitfirebill: I included that factor due to the fact that when I needed to discover a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go through each in every junkyard in South Jacket to discover one that wasn't sludged up actually severely.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're going to chat regarding a couple of issues of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to come out and say one is better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the very same lorry.
Mark: So, well, let's begin with engines after that. Let's talk concerning engine and really just to specify that the version years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you recognize, I indicate, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you know, for a version of a Chevy van has been around since, you understand, around that time too. Because 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
You know, Fords, and most of them come with the Triton V8. There's a lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with blow to these engines, since they really did not have sufficient threading in the ignition system, which triggered problems. And usually that would happen when you could be in a 15 passenger bus rising a hillside with a load of people and all of an unexpected boom, an ignition system bulges and you're stranded.
So if you're purchasing anything from possibly 08 and more recent, you're not mosting likely to have that kind of trigger plug problems. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leak, they'll create coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold typically you have to replace the entire point.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to say in their favour, since I'm speaking regarding issues, it's an extra sophisticated engine. Expenses camera, so you're obtaining even more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a simpler layout with push poles.
They're simply really pretty excellent, durable, strong engines. You understand, being a van, naturally, you understand, doing any kind of service on them is much more complicated due to the fact that you've obtained to eliminate that cover and enter into maintenance in strange ways. Things like spark plugs last a dreadful lengthy time, so they do not need to be changed extremely often.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long time, like method back before the 2000 design year.
You know, that's still available. I would certainly not recommend a diesel unless you're transporting remarkably hefty lots. Diesels require to be functioned. That's truly the lower line with a diesel. If you're a say, I don't know, I'm simply going to state a plumber and you've obtained like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're lugging a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a truly great usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it seems like the diesels are, they seem to have much less troubles in vans than they do in the vehicles. Possibly since they aren't worked so hard, however when things take place, they're actually pricey to deal with. We have actually got a whole lot of video clips and info concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
You truly require to assume two times concerning getting a diesel in a van. That's my suggestion. Mark: Yeah, so suitable for function, ensure that you're fitting the engine that you're purchasing for the purpose that you're endeavouring to satisfy. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will say, Chevy is quite much limited to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine too, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and again, we're simply talking concerning kind of a right, routine cargo van here. Look at your function, your usage, how much weight you're transporting and that'll aid you make the decision.
One point that we have not discussed here is what type of van. These vans are, and it depends on what model, they're available ever from half load to one heap chassis and actually several of the cutaway vans are actually much more long lasting, like, you know, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
But typically the drive trains, you recognize, I discover them to be practically equal. Mark: So allow's chat concerning steering and suspension. How do they compare? Bernie: You recognize, I'm going to offer the edge to Ford on this. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's less guiding link included in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, but it appears, and the Chevy's possibly last a bit longer than the Fords, yet the, you know, the steering linkage is a lot less complex, so there's less parts and less items to use out.
The experience in a Ford is most likely a little bit extra vehicle like but I don't know if you 'd in fact ever truly discovered a difference in between both. It appears like their parts are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What concerning brakes? Bernie: Brakes are basically the same, however I will claim that it appears like with Fords, the means they construct their brake calipers, that they have a tendency to require to be replaced virtually every time you do a brake work.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake task. And after that a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dirt boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be replaced. So I assume on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a little even more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back before the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had really bad doors. I suggest, the moving doors were crap, you understand, truly badly constructed. Actually, I would state that if you are even checking out something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans really and their trucks as a whole really took a jump onward in top quality around the 2000 version year, due to the fact that there was a whole lot of things where the brakes for example would certainly not last long whatsoever.
However if we're considering the 2000 newer, I suggest, I 'd state they're both most likely practically equivalent in quality, fit and coating, you recognize, some of the guest vans, of course we'll have better appointments than the cargo vans. Yet I can't state that a person of them stands apart to me a little even more than the other.
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